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		<title>Comment on Tasting KFWE&#8217;s Gourmet Offerings by RoadtoZanzabar</title>
		<link>http://jewneric.com/2012/02/tasting-kfwes-gourmet-offerings/#comment-910</link>
		<dc:creator>RoadtoZanzabar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 22:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You totally missed some of the best offerings of the whole night.   The beef tartar from Pardes was to die for as was the bbq oxtail from etc steakhouse.    As for Gemstone, the Hawaiian tuna sashimi with the lemongrass foam in the edible wonton spoon was one of the boldest and most flavorful offerings of the entire night.     Also the smoked duck from Les Mariase was a total homerun.   My one complaint of the night was that as the hours pushed on, it was just so tough to get through to any of the stations.   But I would not miss it next year, $80 for an all you can eat all you can drink kosher experience....all you need is a good babysitter and designated driver:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You totally missed some of the best offerings of the whole night.   The beef tartar from Pardes was to die for as was the bbq oxtail from etc steakhouse.    As for Gemstone, the Hawaiian tuna sashimi with the lemongrass foam in the edible wonton spoon was one of the boldest and most flavorful offerings of the entire night.     Also the smoked duck from Les Mariase was a total homerun.   My one complaint of the night was that as the hours pushed on, it was just so tough to get through to any of the stations.   But I would not miss it next year, $80 for an all you can eat all you can drink kosher experience&#8230;.all you need is a good babysitter and designated driver:)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Crummy Contests Hurt Your Brand by Dave Weinberg</title>
		<link>http://jewneric.com/2012/02/why-crummy-contests-hurt-your-brand/#comment-908</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Weinberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 17:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neoarchitect4,
&quot;Farm&quot;-spam is the worst! Unless you are actually going to drop off a bunch of fresh carrots at my door on your way home from work, I DO NOT CARE! Worst still is the IM requests in the same vain.I find that by the second irrelevant post, I reach out to the poster privately and ask them why they are sharing so much and if their account has been compromised.

The click drop ratio is a HUGE deal. Â This goes more into site design as well... don&#039;t think you will achieve virality, raise funds or get email sign ups if it take more than a click/screen or two to get to the end result. Â 

Thanks for sharing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neoarchitect4,<br />
&#8220;Farm&#8221;-spam is the worst! Unless you are actually going to drop off a bunch of fresh carrots at my door on your way home from work, I DO NOT CARE! Worst still is the IM requests in the same vain.I find that by the second irrelevant post, I reach out to the poster privately and ask them why they are sharing so much and if their account has been compromised.</p>
<p>The click drop ratio is a HUGE deal. Â This goes more into site design as well&#8230; don&#8217;t think you will achieve virality, raise funds or get email sign ups if it take more than a click/screen or two to get to the end result. Â </p>
<p>Thanks for sharing!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Crummy Contests Hurt Your Brand by Dave Weinberg</title>
		<link>http://jewneric.com/2012/02/why-crummy-contests-hurt-your-brand/#comment-907</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Weinberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 17:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point, Michael. Â The value of the prize needs to be worth the loss in credibility. Â For &quot;Like&quot; contest, if you have any sort of following, you need to weigh that risk against the prize you hope to win. Â </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point, Michael. Â The value of the prize needs to be worth the loss in credibility. Â For &#8220;Like&#8221; contest, if you have any sort of following, you need to weigh that risk against the prize you hope to win. Â </p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Crummy Contests Hurt Your Brand by Dave Weinberg</title>
		<link>http://jewneric.com/2012/02/why-crummy-contests-hurt-your-brand/#comment-906</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Weinberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 17:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Ariel.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Why Crummy Contests Hurt Your Brand by Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://jewneric.com/2012/02/why-crummy-contests-hurt-your-brand/#comment-905</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 17:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree 100%. What people don&#039;t value enoughÂ  on social networks is their reputation. If I have a &quot;friend&quot; who is filling my newsfeed with posts on game updates they are playing, eventually I either block them, or worse, my mind tells my eyes to never read their posts anymore. I create a mental block, therefore not allowing myself to see any future posts of their regardless of it&#039;s legitimacy or importance.

With regards to the actual point of this article (which has been very well written, I might add):
Anytime a websites requires more than 2 clicks to convert on a call-to-action, I&#039;m done. For every click required, conversion rate falls 20%. Making someone jump through too many hoops and you&#039;ll lose the vital users.

Great article!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree 100%. What people don&#8217;t value enoughÂ  on social networks is their reputation. If I have a &#8220;friend&#8221; who is filling my newsfeed with posts on game updates they are playing, eventually I either block them, or worse, my mind tells my eyes to never read their posts anymore. I create a mental block, therefore not allowing myself to see any future posts of their regardless of it&#8217;s legitimacy or importance.</p>
<p>With regards to the actual point of this article (which has been very well written, I might add):<br />
Anytime a websites requires more than 2 clicks to convert on a call-to-action, I&#8217;m done. For every click required, conversion rate falls 20%. Making someone jump through too many hoops and you&#8217;ll lose the vital users.</p>
<p>Great article!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Crummy Contests Hurt Your Brand by Michael Litwack</title>
		<link>http://jewneric.com/2012/02/why-crummy-contests-hurt-your-brand/#comment-904</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Litwack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 15:40:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great Article. Â I&#039;m often irked by the contests that advertise as &quot;like us on facebook&quot; and in turn have you register multiple places and jump through hoops for things like an $89 kindle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great Article. Â I&#8217;m often irked by the contests that advertise as &#8220;like us on facebook&#8221; and in turn have you register multiple places and jump through hoops for things like an $89 kindle.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Why Crummy Contests Hurt Your Brand by Ariel Remer</title>
		<link>http://jewneric.com/2012/02/why-crummy-contests-hurt-your-brand/#comment-903</link>
		<dc:creator>Ariel Remer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 14:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>loved the post Dave.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Jewish Guys &amp; Asian Girls, Oy Gevult! by Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://jewneric.com/2011/10/jewish-guys-asian-girls-oy-gevult/#comment-902</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jan 2012 03:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a Jewish woman and have only been attracted to two Jewish men (both very dark-skinned,Â Sephardic Israelis) in my lifetime. I&#039;m not attracted to Jewish American men becauseÂ many look to me like they could be a relative of mine. I&#039;m almost grossed out by them physically. I also amÂ turned offÂ by their body odor.Â I am sure that these physical reactions are my genes&#039; way of saying, &quot;Don&#039;t reproduce with him! You are too closely related.&quot; Do any other Jewish women feel this way?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a Jewish woman and have only been attracted to two Jewish men (both very dark-skinned,Â Sephardic Israelis) in my lifetime. I&#8217;m not attracted to Jewish American men becauseÂ many look to me like they could be a relative of mine. I&#8217;m almost grossed out by them physically. I also amÂ turned offÂ by their body odor.Â I am sure that these physical reactions are my genes&#8217; way of saying, &#8220;Don&#8217;t reproduce with him! You are too closely related.&#8221; Do any other Jewish women feel this way?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Yes. Palm Oil Truly IS Kosher. by David Fryman</title>
		<link>http://jewneric.com/2012/01/yes-palm-oil-truly-is-kosher/#comment-901</link>
		<dc:creator>David Fryman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jan 2012 16:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where does he say that?</description>
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		<title>Comment on Yes. Palm Oil Truly IS Kosher. by Jeff Stier</title>
		<link>http://jewneric.com/2012/01/yes-palm-oil-truly-is-kosher/#comment-900</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Stier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jan 2012 02:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He thinks it is not sustainable and therefore not kosher.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Yes. Palm Oil Truly IS Kosher. by David Fryman</title>
		<link>http://jewneric.com/2012/01/yes-palm-oil-truly-is-kosher/#comment-899</link>
		<dc:creator>David Fryman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jan 2012 23:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where doesÂ Rabbi Amswych claim that palm oil is not kosher? In the article you link you, he claims that palm oil is a problem particularly because it&#039;s used in kosher food.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where doesÂ Rabbi Amswych claim that palm oil is not kosher? In the article you link you, he claims that palm oil is a problem particularly because it&#8217;s used in kosher food.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Jewish Relativity by Ben Isecke</title>
		<link>http://jewneric.com/2012/01/jewish-relativity/#comment-898</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Isecke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 15:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not quite sure I understand your comment.</description>
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		<title>Comment on Jewish Relativity by Joshua Einstein</title>
		<link>http://jewneric.com/2012/01/jewish-relativity/#comment-896</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua Einstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 14:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hahaha, Taliban much?</description>
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		<title>Comment on Jewish Relativity by Ben Isecke</title>
		<link>http://jewneric.com/2012/01/jewish-relativity/#comment-895</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Isecke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 00:36:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, no - I am not frum by any stretch, and I&#039;m not sure that I even believe in god, but I will take a strictly literal-Torah stance here, because you have posited one as a pre-condition to your argument.  

Just to clarify, what I got out of your argument here is that since moral instructions have changed in different situations, that strict Jewish morality is meta-ethically relative.   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_relativism   You have made no indication that you are arguing about the other forms of moral relativism, so I won&#039;t address those.


You have not successfully argued moral relativism .  It&#039;s not that god is unbounded by the morality that humans are guided by, and therefore morality is relative.  Nor does it make sense to say that since god gives different instructions in a specific instance than god has given in the general case, that morality has itself shifted.  Under strict Judaism, moral living is living in accordance with hashem, period.  Hashem exists in accordance with Hashem, so Hashem is moral.  If I perform mitzvot, then I exist in accordance with Hashem, and I am moral.  If I ignore (or break) mitzvot, then I am not living in accordance with Hashem, and I am not acting morally.  You have begun with the presumption that the Torah is truth, but under that system, moral relativism is a literal impossiblity.


Once you understand that definition, much of the rest falls into place.


To say that your first example (Adam and Eve) is of moral relativism is to say that we should be bounded by the same laws as Adam and Eve, even though they had not eaten from the tree of Wisdom.  We are fundamentally different from Adam and Eve because we have gained insight.  We are not bound by the same moral code as salamanders because we have an increased capacity to recognize right from wrong.


To say that your Egeyptian example implies that God must be bounded by the same strictures as we are.  Using the definition of morality in literal Judaism, your stance that God&#039;s slaying of the first-born is morally relative is literally saying that &quot;Hashem told *us* not to kill in order to live in accordance with Hashem&#039;s will. When Hashem kills the first-born, Hashem is therefore not in accordance with Hashem&#039;s will.&quot;  Hashem is, by definition, in accordance with Hashem.

To wit: under a literal system of Torah, literal directives are always moral, even if they appear contradictory, silly, or unreasonable.

Your last example is more complex, because there is certainly an appearance that not killing, in general, is in contradiction with being told to kill in a specific instance.  But in assuming a contradiction, you have either made the flaw of presuming knowable properties of the law beyond what was stated (in this case, constancy), or misunderstanding the profound implications of God&#039;s word itself.  Let&#039;s take the first case, first.

There is a teaching from strict torah judaism: you can not claim to know the reason for a mitzvah.  Even if the torah says, &quot;do this for such-and-such reason&quot;, there is no way to know that the reason given is (a) the only reason, or even (b) the best one.  We only know that that is the reason that has been shared with us.  Without knowing the reasons behind the mitzvot, we are also not in a position to decide that if something is all right in one situation, but not in another, that this implies a moral relativism, only that we don&#039;t were not given the rationale behind the shift.

By extension of this same idea, we also cannot &quot;rank&quot; mitzvot.  It seems intuitive that not sleeping with my neighbor&#039;s wife (and dog) is more important than not eating fish that don&#039;t have scales, but we cannot actually know this.  It could be that, on some spiritual and godly level, eating fish without scales seriously messes things up on a grand scale for thousands of years, while sleeping with my neighbor&#039;s wife and dog only really make things messy in my immediate vicinity here on earth while I am alive.

If god said that on Tuesday, we must all wear green hats with spinners on them, then that directive, as silly as it might appear at first glance, would have exactly as much weight as the command not to kill, and it would be exactly as moral.  It&#039;s not relative because it is to a single standard, and if it is not entirely rationalizable, it&#039;s because we have not been given (or perhaps cannot understand) the rationales.

The only knowable properties of a command from God are exactly what God has said, no more, and no less.  God did not say that the commands were necessarily for all time.  God could come back and change this at any point.  This is not a contradiction, either.  This brings us to the second way that the direction could be misunderstood: not taking the profundity of God&#039;s word into account.

God&#039;s word is, quite literally, both the source and the reason behind the universe.  No form of morality is more constant than the universe itself.  If, tomorrow, the universe shifted, flipped itself metaphorically inside-out, and the consequences of actions changed, morality would not have to shift in order for moral actions to change.  If the result of stabbing my neighbor in the head, instead of pain and death, caused that same neighbor to be freed of cancer and to get a handful of candy, then the moral action would involve stabbing him in the head!  (Before you nitpick at my example here, feel free to change it however you wish so that you don&#039;t miss my point.) This is because morals are not separate from consequences.  Morality is, in fact, intricately tied in to consequences, and tied into the physical and spiritual nature of the universe.  Do not forget that we cannot claim to understand these consequences!

Here&#039;s the final bit: when god utters words, the universe itself shifts.  Spiritual stuff whirls around, the physical and spiritual planes are forever altered, and consequences change.  The moral system is still tied in to consequences, but just as we were unaware of the consequences of actions before the change, we are unaware of the consequences of actions after it as well.  The directives God grants us preserve the moral system (Hashem&#039;s will) in the face of a shifted universe.

In the end, if you assume a strict Torah given by an all-knowing, all-powerful creator-god, there cannot be moral relativism.  There can be moral misunderstanding among people, but not relativism, because any way you slice it would imply impossible things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, no &#8211; I am not frum by any stretch, and I&#8217;m not sure that I even believe in god, but I will take a strictly literal-Torah stance here, because you have posited one as a pre-condition to your argument.  </p>
<p>Just to clarify, what I got out of your argument here is that since moral instructions have changed in different situations, that strict Jewish morality is meta-ethically relative.   <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_relativism" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_relativism</a>   You have made no indication that you are arguing about the other forms of moral relativism, so I won&#8217;t address those.</p>
<p>You have not successfully argued moral relativism .  It&#8217;s not that god is unbounded by the morality that humans are guided by, and therefore morality is relative.  Nor does it make sense to say that since god gives different instructions in a specific instance than god has given in the general case, that morality has itself shifted.  Under strict Judaism, moral living is living in accordance with hashem, period.  Hashem exists in accordance with Hashem, so Hashem is moral.  If I perform mitzvot, then I exist in accordance with Hashem, and I am moral.  If I ignore (or break) mitzvot, then I am not living in accordance with Hashem, and I am not acting morally.  You have begun with the presumption that the Torah is truth, but under that system, moral relativism is a literal impossiblity.</p>
<p>Once you understand that definition, much of the rest falls into place.</p>
<p>To say that your first example (Adam and Eve) is of moral relativism is to say that we should be bounded by the same laws as Adam and Eve, even though they had not eaten from the tree of Wisdom.  We are fundamentally different from Adam and Eve because we have gained insight.  We are not bound by the same moral code as salamanders because we have an increased capacity to recognize right from wrong.</p>
<p>To say that your Egeyptian example implies that God must be bounded by the same strictures as we are.  Using the definition of morality in literal Judaism, your stance that God&#8217;s slaying of the first-born is morally relative is literally saying that &#8220;Hashem told *us* not to kill in order to live in accordance with Hashem&#8217;s will. When Hashem kills the first-born, Hashem is therefore not in accordance with Hashem&#8217;s will.&#8221;  Hashem is, by definition, in accordance with Hashem.</p>
<p>To wit: under a literal system of Torah, literal directives are always moral, even if they appear contradictory, silly, or unreasonable.</p>
<p>Your last example is more complex, because there is certainly an appearance that not killing, in general, is in contradiction with being told to kill in a specific instance.  But in assuming a contradiction, you have either made the flaw of presuming knowable properties of the law beyond what was stated (in this case, constancy), or misunderstanding the profound implications of God&#8217;s word itself.  Let&#8217;s take the first case, first.</p>
<p>There is a teaching from strict torah judaism: you can not claim to know the reason for a mitzvah.  Even if the torah says, &#8220;do this for such-and-such reason&#8221;, there is no way to know that the reason given is (a) the only reason, or even (b) the best one.  We only know that that is the reason that has been shared with us.  Without knowing the reasons behind the mitzvot, we are also not in a position to decide that if something is all right in one situation, but not in another, that this implies a moral relativism, only that we don&#8217;t were not given the rationale behind the shift.</p>
<p>By extension of this same idea, we also cannot &#8220;rank&#8221; mitzvot.  It seems intuitive that not sleeping with my neighbor&#8217;s wife (and dog) is more important than not eating fish that don&#8217;t have scales, but we cannot actually know this.  It could be that, on some spiritual and godly level, eating fish without scales seriously messes things up on a grand scale for thousands of years, while sleeping with my neighbor&#8217;s wife and dog only really make things messy in my immediate vicinity here on earth while I am alive.</p>
<p>If god said that on Tuesday, we must all wear green hats with spinners on them, then that directive, as silly as it might appear at first glance, would have exactly as much weight as the command not to kill, and it would be exactly as moral.  It&#8217;s not relative because it is to a single standard, and if it is not entirely rationalizable, it&#8217;s because we have not been given (or perhaps cannot understand) the rationales.</p>
<p>The only knowable properties of a command from God are exactly what God has said, no more, and no less.  God did not say that the commands were necessarily for all time.  God could come back and change this at any point.  This is not a contradiction, either.  This brings us to the second way that the direction could be misunderstood: not taking the profundity of God&#8217;s word into account.</p>
<p>God&#8217;s word is, quite literally, both the source and the reason behind the universe.  No form of morality is more constant than the universe itself.  If, tomorrow, the universe shifted, flipped itself metaphorically inside-out, and the consequences of actions changed, morality would not have to shift in order for moral actions to change.  If the result of stabbing my neighbor in the head, instead of pain and death, caused that same neighbor to be freed of cancer and to get a handful of candy, then the moral action would involve stabbing him in the head!  (Before you nitpick at my example here, feel free to change it however you wish so that you don&#8217;t miss my point.) This is because morals are not separate from consequences.  Morality is, in fact, intricately tied in to consequences, and tied into the physical and spiritual nature of the universe.  Do not forget that we cannot claim to understand these consequences!</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the final bit: when god utters words, the universe itself shifts.  Spiritual stuff whirls around, the physical and spiritual planes are forever altered, and consequences change.  The moral system is still tied in to consequences, but just as we were unaware of the consequences of actions before the change, we are unaware of the consequences of actions after it as well.  The directives God grants us preserve the moral system (Hashem&#8217;s will) in the face of a shifted universe.</p>
<p>In the end, if you assume a strict Torah given by an all-knowing, all-powerful creator-god, there cannot be moral relativism.  There can be moral misunderstanding among people, but not relativism, because any way you slice it would imply impossible things.</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;Hodu&#8221; This Year in Israel by Mihal Indyk</title>
		<link>http://jewneric.com/2011/11/hodu-this-year-in-israel/#comment-893</link>
		<dc:creator>Mihal Indyk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Dec 2011 04:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Hodu is also India a colourfull country filled with many gifts to be thankful for did I say it was my bday this yr ?</description>
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