Comments on: Davening Man Removed from Plane http://jewneric.com/davening-man-removed-from-plane/2008/04/17/ A New Platform for the Jewish Voice Thu, 20 Nov 2008 21:31:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: leah http://jewneric.com/davening-man-removed-from-plane/2008/04/17/#comment-552 leah Tue, 29 Apr 2008 04:01:04 +0000 http://jewneric.com/davening-man-removed-from-plane/2008/04/17/#comment-552 One last thing, two words............................................... derekh eretz. One last thing, two words……………………………………….. derekh eretz.

]]> By: leah http://jewneric.com/davening-man-removed-from-plane/2008/04/17/#comment-551 leah Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:52:46 +0000 http://jewneric.com/davening-man-removed-from-plane/2008/04/17/#comment-551 One should be so indulged in their davening that someone talking to them wouldn't be heard. If he was able to hear the flight attendant he should have sat down. I am conflicted in your subjectivities only because gathering for a minyan in a JFK airport raises such a level of spirituality. What more beautiful than to see a group of people pray to HaShem. At the same time, no one has to be rude or hinder other people from carrying on with their own activities. Here's a thought, those same Chassidim so proudly davening in front of the Laguardia airport, would they have been so easily moved to daven Mincha right by the Gaza Strip. :) I don't think so. One should be so indulged in their davening that someone talking to them wouldn’t be heard. If he was able to hear the flight attendant he should have sat down.

I am conflicted in your subjectivities only because gathering for a minyan in a JFK airport raises such a level of spirituality. What more beautiful than to see a group of people pray to HaShem. At the same time, no one has to be rude or hinder other people from carrying on with their own activities.

Here’s a thought, those same Chassidim so proudly davening in front of the Laguardia airport, would they have been so easily moved to daven Mincha right by the Gaza Strip. :) I don’t think so.

]]> By: Dave Weinberg http://jewneric.com/davening-man-removed-from-plane/2008/04/17/#comment-532 Dave Weinberg Thu, 17 Apr 2008 22:13:57 +0000 http://jewneric.com/davening-man-removed-from-plane/2008/04/17/#comment-532 Another reason why I am always so uncomfortable davening in public. Other Jews who create a Chilul Hashem like this make similar more private endevours uncomfortable. I was once waiting for a plane to Montreal at Laguardia airport in NY. The airport was PACKED. Several Chasidim started a miyan IN FRONT of a gate door and needed tenth man...so I joined in at the very back. Besides for distrupting the general flow of people sitting and waiting for thier flights, the Chassidim chose NOT to do a chezi kedusha and had a full amida. During the Chazzan's repititon, a flight arrived and deppanning passengers had to snak through us. Flight attendants and airport staff started yelling at the Chassidm who yelled back, "we'll be done in a few minutes, please!" Wow, I was uncomfortable. They could have chosen to daven out of the way, or done so in a quick manner or waited. Of course not, we are the CHOSEN people and others be damned... Another reason why I am always so uncomfortable davening in public. Other Jews who create a Chilul Hashem like this make similar more private endevours uncomfortable.

I was once waiting for a plane to Montreal at Laguardia airport in NY. The airport was PACKED. Several Chasidim started a miyan IN FRONT of a gate door and needed tenth man…so I joined in at the very back. Besides for distrupting the general flow of people sitting and waiting for thier flights, the Chassidim chose NOT to do a chezi kedusha and had a full amida. During the Chazzan’s repititon, a flight arrived and deppanning passengers had to snak through us. Flight attendants and airport staff started yelling at the Chassidm who yelled back, “we’ll be done in a few minutes, please!” Wow, I was uncomfortable.

They could have chosen to daven out of the way, or done so in a quick manner or waited. Of course not, we are the CHOSEN people and others be damned…

]]> By: Menachem Wecker http://jewneric.com/davening-man-removed-from-plane/2008/04/17/#comment-531 Menachem Wecker Thu, 17 Apr 2008 21:55:11 +0000 http://jewneric.com/davening-man-removed-from-plane/2008/04/17/#comment-531 I applaud your guts in posting this, Marc. I agree completely. This is a disgrace. He should have taken his seat and finished later. I worry about some folks' attitudes to do as they please and then just apologize and explain afterwards that they didn't mean to be offensive. This was offensive, and it sounds from the story like he actually heard the attendant and wasn't so caught up in his prayers that he missed it. Once there's already an interruption, why not take your seat? I applaud your guts in posting this, Marc. I agree completely. This is a disgrace. He should have taken his seat and finished later. I worry about some folks’ attitudes to do as they please and then just apologize and explain afterwards that they didn’t mean to be offensive. This was offensive, and it sounds from the story like he actually heard the attendant and wasn’t so caught up in his prayers that he missed it. Once there’s already an interruption, why not take your seat?

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